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Saalfeld, and expressing his per- sonages ; when that was detersuasion of the concurrence and mine: upon, it might possibly be assistance of Parliament, in ena- necessary to apply to the House bling him to make such a provi- for further aid. The right hon. sion, with a view to the said mar- gentleman concluded with movriage, as may be suitable to the ing a resolution for a grant of honour and dignity of the coun- the amual sum of 60,0001. for try. A correspondent address was the establishment of the Princess unanimously agreed to in both Charlotte and the Prince of CoHouses.
bourg, on the conditions aboveOn the following day, the sub- mentioned, to commence from ject of a provision being taken the day of their marriage. into consideration in the flouse In the conversation which fol. of Commons, the Chancellor of lowed, various suggestions were the Exchequer stated his intention, made by different members, but first to propose for the illustrious without the least opposition to pair the annual sum of 60,0001., the resolution, which passed unaof which 10,000l. was to form a ninously. sort of privy purse for her Royal A subsequent motion relative Highness, and the remainder to ibe 60,0001, by way of outfit would defray the domestic ex- passed with the same unanimity. penses of the Prince of Cobourg: Another proceeding of parliathis sum to be granted to them ment, consequent upon this imduring their joint lives. If the portant matrimonial union, was Prince of Cobourg should die that of passing a bill for the nafirst, the whole su to be conti- turalization of tlic Prince of Conued to her Royal Highness : if bourg, which went through all he should be the survivor, the its stages in both houses sum of 30,0001. to be continued March 28th. to him. It was intended, that It was naturally to be supthe allowance from the civil list posed, that the heavy burdens to the Princess should cease, unier which the nation was lawhich would be a siting to the bouring, at a time of much dopublic of 30,0001. a year. With mestic distress, would render the respect to the sum for outfit, independent inembers of parliawhich would hereafter he sub- ment, as well as thc habitual opmitted, he should propose a vote posers of the ininistry, vigilant equal to one year's expenditure, in marking crcry deviation from of which it was calculated that that spirit of economy, which had 40,0001, would defray the pur- been promised in the Regent's chase of furniture, plate, equi- speech at the opening of the pages, &c. 10,000l. for the Prin- session, and was generally looked cess's dress, and 10,000), for ad- for as the only effectual remedition to her jewels. lle had dy for the public difficulties. another point to offer for the at- A subject relative to this point, tention of the House. Ilitherto important in its character, though it had not been possible to fix on inconsiderable in the amount at a residence for the illustrious per. issue, was brought before the VOL. LVIII.
House of Commons on March for auginenting thie expenses of 20th, by Mr. Methuen, a gentle- the country in the wildest infaman, who was habitually a sup- tuation of ministerial indiscre. porter of the measures of govern- tion?. Instead of increasing sament when he thought they de- laries, they ought to be reduced, served support. After having read not only on account of the unexsome extracts from papers laid ampled difficulties in which we before the House, to prove the were placed, but on account of little attention paid to retrench- the diminution in price of the arment, displayed by the augmen-' ticles of life. He concluded with tation of the salaries in various moving, " That this House does offices, he proceeded to a docu- approve of the order in council ment consisting of the copy of an of the 5th of June 1800, fixing order in council, dated June 21st, the salaries of the secretaries of 1815, and relating to the salaries the Admiralty at a lower rate ia of the secretaries of the Admi- time of peace than in time of war, ralty. It stated, that an order of and does consider the departure council made in January 1900, from this order, in the order of having directed, that there should council of the 2lot of June 1815, be a difference in the salaries of by which an increase of the sathe secretaries and clerks in times lary is conferred on the secretaof war and of peace, namely, an in- ries, as highly unwarrantable." crease in time of war of one-fourth Lord Castlereagh began his rein those of the secretaries, and ply with stating the retrenchone-fifth in those of the clerks; ments actually made, and about and a subsequent order of coun- to be made, in various departcil in 1807, having sanctioned a ments of government, as a proof principle laid down by the com- that the ministers were not inatmissioners of naval revision, tentive to the point of economy; “ That it is unjust that persons and these he stated at a total of whose whole time either in war 650,000l. On coming to the paror peace, is required to be de- ticular subject in question, he first voted to the public service, and observed, that the proposed resoluwho consequently cannot, even tion sanctioned the principle laid in peace, apply to any other oc- down in 1800, in contradistinction cupation, should suffer a material to that acted upon in 1815; diminution of their incomes when but the former included the clerks the war ceases ;” the council, as well as the secretaries : the agreeing in this principle, humbly resolution, therefore, if adopted, submitted to the Regent, that he would modify a measure which it would please to direct, that the professed unqualifiedly to recomsalaries established as war sala- mend. Proceeding to explain the ries by the said orders of council, reasons, which had induced the should be the permanent salaries Board of Admiralty to recomboth in war and peace of the per- mend to the treasury the rise of sons therein named. The hon. salary for which the order of gentleman then asked, if there council had been obtained, he was ever such a moment chosen said that he owed it to his hon.
friend, friend, the first secretary of the this explanation of the noble lord Adıniralty (Mr. Croker) to state, would prove generally satisfacthat he had used no influence, tory; and the speeches of several Aor made a suggestion of a wish, members expressed a conviction, to obtain an increase of salary, that the resolution first moved for and that the subject had been was well founded. Mr. Brougham brought before government, by distinguished himself by the secircumstances over which he ex. verity of his censures upon the ercised no control. The fact was, noble lord and his coadjutors. that the regulation which fixed In adverting to the statement of the reduction of the salaries of great reductions which had been
the secretaries in time of peace made by the ministers, he said, . at one-fourth, struck off from that above 400,0001. of the sum
that of the elerks one-fifth. When saved, arose merely from the disthe peace with America was con- charge of workinen for whom cluded, the period of reduction there was now po employment; was supposed to have arrived'; and that many offices abolished, but the re-appearance of Buona- those particularly of the commisparte almost
immediately fol. sariat, were such as there was lowed, on which, without de. no pretext for retaining. On the clared war, there were vigorous whole, he did not scruple to depreparations for hostilities. Were nominate the aftair in question a then the Admiralty clerks to have scandalous job, of which the oba deduction from their remunera- ject was to put money in the tion, when there was no diminu. pocket of the secretary of the tion of their labour ? Govern- Admiralty. Mr. Tierney, in an ment taking the case into consi- entertaining speech, compounded deration, thought it would be of irony and sarcasm, represented better to continue the war salary the matter as part of a deliberate in time of peace, than to inerease system in the administration, of the peace salary to the necessary resisting every thing that looked extent, and to adhere to the prin- like economy, or the diminution ciple of the two rates. The only of the salaries of persons who thing next to be considered was, had now few or no duties to perwhether the hon. secretary should form. participate in the rise, or remain Much of the debate turned upon the only exception; and of this, personal attacks and recriminafor reasons stated by the noble tions which may be passed over. lord, there could, he said, be The principal argument against scarcely any difference of opinion. the original motion was, that the The whole question would be proper time for discussing the open for discussion, when the subject would be subsequent to estiinates came before the House. laying the estimates before the Convinced that this was not the House, and this was concurred proper time, he should move, in by Mr. Bankes, though he dethat the House proceed to the clared it to be his decided opiother orders of the day.
nion, that the increase of these It could not be expected, that salaries in time of peace was an
improper improper act. In the division on seven years longer, all business Lord Castlercagh's amendment connected with the colonies was for proceeding to the orders of transacted by the secretary for the day, it was carried by a ma- the home department, but in jority of 29, the numbers being 1801, it was transferred to the For the amendment, 159, Against office of the secretary of war. It it, 130,
appeared, however, from one of The effect of this discussion the papers on the table, that Mr. was made apparent shortly after, King, one of the home secretawhen Sir G. Warrender, informed ries, had stated the business of the House that he did not intend his office to be the carrying on of to move, that the salaries of thie
all correspondence relative to two secretaries of the Admiralty every part of the British einpire, should be voted upon the war with the exception of the East establishment.
Indies, and also every domestic An attempt for the reduction matter, with the exception of the of the public expenses, by abo- revenue, and thosc affairs which lishing a considerable state office, were under the management, of was made on April 30, in a mo- the Lord Chancellor. It thus tion by Mr. Tierney, relative to appearing (said Mr. T.) that the the departments of the secretaries thirdl secretaryship was created of state. The history of this in 1794, solely to transact the inatter was thus stated by the business of the war, his concluright hon. member. Up to the sion was, that as the war was at year 1768, there were only two an end, that office ought to he secretaries of state ; but on ac- abolished. He then proceeded to count of the situation of the the particulars of the charge at country, during the war with tending it, and calculated, that America, a third was afterwards the plan he propused as a subadded. This appointment con- stitute, would makc a saving of tinued till 1789, when, by Mr. 12 or 14,0001.
After recapitu. Burke's bill the office of third se lating and calarying upon his cretary was abolished, and from
statements, bc concluded with that time to 1791, the business moving," that an address be
prewas conducted by two secretaries sented to the Prince Regent, of state, under the name of sc- humbly praying, that he would cretary for the foreign, and for the be pleased to give directions, home department. Ju 1794, Mr. that the division of the state Dundas, then home secretary, offices in 1794, þy which, in adalso carried on the business of dition to the secretaries of state what was then for the first tinie for the home and foreign departcalled the war department; but ments, a secretary of state was this business so much accumu- constituted for the war departlated, that it was thouglit neces- ment, be revived, and that the sary to separate the two, and on departments of the secretaries of that occasion, the office of secre- state be, now that peace is haptary of state for the war depart- pily resto: ed, again placed, with ment was created. For about all convenient dispatch, upon the
footing on which they stood in ten days in the course of any one 1793."
year, and that the duties of it Mr. Goulburn, in opposing the were quite sufficient to occupy motion, chiefly argued upon the his tinie. great importance of our colonial Mr. Bathurst gave his opinion, possessions, which rendered it ne- that the business of the colonies cessary to have a responsible mi- was enough for the management nister of the crown to superintend of one person. them. It would not be sufficient : Mr. İ. H. Smyth said, that havto give to them half, or one-third ing had an opportunity of being of the attention of a ininister, nor acquainted with the business in would the suggested increase of the offices of secretary of state, clerks answer the purpose. If a he did not wish to give a silent comparison was made between the vote on this occasion. He believed, manner in which the colonial bu. that the business which the third siness was transacted by the home secretary had lost by the peace, department, and that when it was was more than equal to the whole coinmitted to a separate establish- business of the home department ment, it would be found, that the at the present time; and if he latter was much more efficient. were asked, if he thought one se
Mr. Wynn, who had been ap- cretary enough for both offices, his pealed to, respecting the business answer would be, that in his conof the home department, said, that science he thought it was. when he was in that office, he The remainder of the debate, found that the superintendence of in which several members took the volunteers and militia was en. part, was chiefly occupied in the trusted to one under-secretary, recapitulation of arguments for and the superintendence of police and against the capability of two and aliens to another. The whole secretaries of state, 'for transactof the labour of the volunteers ing at this time of peace the pubwas now taken away, and that lic business which had devolved of the militia nearly so ; and there upon three in time of war ; in was also a great diminution in the which the principal ground taken business of superintending aliens. by the ministers, and their supOu the whole, the business of the porters, was the present state of alien office was now very much our colonial possessions, which diminished, and might admit of had augmented the superintendconsiderable reductions; and he ing control of the colonial sewas confident, that in consolidat- cretary of state, to a degree wholly ing it with the business of the unprecedented. After Mr. Tiercolonies, neither of them would ney's concluding speech, in which be neglected.
he said, that the opposition made Mr. Addington, in his obscrva- by the noble lord (Castlereagh) tions on the last speaker, said, and his colleagues to this motion, that the business of the home de- would hold them up in their true partment was so great, that his colours to the country, the House noble relation (Lord' Sidmouth) divided, For the motion 100, had not been absent from his office Against it 182.