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Brought forward,

Interest on L. 5,000, 3 per cent. capital stock, it being proposed to appropriate
L.15,000 of the whole, say L.20,000, towards the monies required for com-
pleting the repairs, leaving L.5.000 as a reserve,
Rents at Ramsgate of houses, &c.

Average receipts for rental of dock and storehouses,

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Surplus to meet contingencies, and to pay off the monies borrowed, exclusive of the reductions the Trustees may be able to make in the establishment, Add, amount of difference of rate on ships of Foreign States, which will con. tinue to be collected until British ships shall be placed in such countries upon the same footing in respect to charges as their own, 154,897 tons, at 1 d. per ton, to be charged only one way; the charge on all ships above 300 tons, as recommended, being abandoned.

Total surplus, at reduced rates,

In addition to the surplus, it may be stated, that in consequence of the reduction in the rates, the number of vessels that will frequent Ramsgate harbour will be materially increased, and the receipts therefore probably rather 'exceed than fall short of the estimate. In concluding, your Committee beg to repeat a suggestion offered in a former part of their report, that, with a view to the accommodation of the trade, the collection of all the rates may be consolidated, and that the trustees should authorise the collection of the dues payable in London by the Trinity Corporation, at their office on Tower-hill; a

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commission of two and a half per cent. being allowed the Corporation for the trouble of collecting them.

DOVER HARBOUR.

Your committee's attention was, in the next instance, directed to Dover harbour, and the charges imposed and collected for its maintenance. This harbour has long enjoyed legislative protection; the act under which it is now regulated is the 47th Geo. III. c. 69. The management is placed under the Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports, the Lieutenant-Governor of Dover Castle, the Mayor of Dover for the

time being, and a certain number of assistants, who used to hold meetings twice a-year, but which, according to the evidence of Mr Shipdem, the registrar and agent, have not been regularly held for some years. They have the power, under the act, to raise monies for the purposes of the harbour, upon the credit of the rates, in such a manner as to a majority of them may seem expedient. Of this right they have availed themselves to a considerable extent, as by a paper returned by Mr Latham, the treasurer, it appears, that since the year 1794, sums have been raised upon the credit of the rates, to the amount of L. 19,500, part of which upon annuities at 9, 10, and 11 per cent., and that an agreement has been made with a Mr Oxenden, for a further loan of L. 7000, making together no less a sum than L. 26,500 at an annual interest of L. 1504, of which sum so raised, L. 23,500 has been borrowed within the last five years. It appears further, by the accounts rendered and confirmed by the evidence of the registrar, that the annual average revenues of the harbour are about L. 13,000 per annum, so that in five years a sum of no less than L. 81,500 has been expended upon the works, repairs, and maintenance of the harbour. The amount of the rates by law established upon the shipping are, threepence per ton upon all ships under 300 tons burden, bound over-sea, which shall pass from, to, or by Dover, whether to the east or the west side of the Goodwin Sands, or which shall enter the harbour, and authorises a reimbursement of the rates from the owners of the cargoes with which the vessels shall be laden.

Coasting vessels, if laden, are subject to a charge of 1d. for every chaldron of coals or culm, ton of grindstone, Purbeck, or Portland stone, provided they shall be above 20 tons and under 300 tons; and from every vessel that

may enter Dover harbour, laden with merchandise, above 300 tons burden, 3d. per ton; but if laden with coals and culm, 14d. per chaldron, and an equal charge for every ton of grindstone, Purbeck, or Portland stone. All vessels in ballast, and such as do not enter the harbour, being of the burden of 300 tons and upwards, are exempted from any demand.

The annual receipt of rates, upon an average of the last five years, is about L. 11,300; and the annual receipt of permanent income, arising from ground rents, and leases of houses and land, to about L. 1,700, making together the annual income of L. 13,000 per annum.

Many of the observations your committee have felt it their duty to make, in regard to the principle upon which the rates payable from shipping to Ramsgate harbour are in some instances collected, apply more strongly to that of Dover. The practice, although sanctioned by law, of making vessels pay duties for a harbour, of the advantages of which they do not, and in many cases cannot avail themselves, appear to your committee objectionable; and particularly so in a case where, from the natural formation of a bar thrown up before the harbour during gales of wind, ships are frequently precluded from obtaining shelter in it in periods of great danger and distress. It appears in evidence, that the bar in question is at times increased to a degree to render the entrance of ships or craft of any burden into the harbour impracticable; and although upon some occasions during spring tides, vessels of between 400 and 500 tons are said to have entered for shelter, they must be considered as extraordinary cases, and to have occurred during the prevalence of a northerly wind, when it is presumed that vessels, unless in a state of the most imminent peril from leakage or damage, would prefer seeking

shelter in the roads of Dungeness, or even Portsmouth harbour.

Attempts have been made to obviate the obstruction alluded to, which have hitherto been unsuccessful. It is stated to your committee, however, that works are now in progress, which may lessen the continuance of the inconvenience, although not prevent it. Mr Shipdem states, that whenever the works in question shall be in operation, it will require a tide to remove the obstruction, which your committee understand to be, after the gale of wind (which has produced the bar) shall have subsided, the harbour, of course, not affording shelter at the moment when most important. How far any ingenuity may be successful in seconding the endea vours which the Harbour Trust are making, at a great expense, to obviate the inconveniences belonging to this harbour, your committee are unable to form a judgment; but they submit, whether in any event the accommodation it appears likely to afford to the navigation of the country is of an extent and value to furnish a reason for continuing (except on those that may actually enter the harbour) so large an impost on ships under 300 tons, sailing from port to port, which in the ordinary course of navigation pass between Calais and Dover, and which have little chance of reaping any advantage from it. Upon these grounds your committee would have felt no hesitation in suggesting the continuance of all rates upon ships or vessels which shall not avail themselves of Dover harbour, were it not for the large debt which has been incurred, the payment of which has been guaranteed upon the faith of the rates, and the importance which, in a national point of view, be longs to the harbour, as affording a point of most convenient communication with the coast of France, which your committee are of opinion should, under any circumstances, be maintained. It

appears to them, however, that by subjecting the expenditure to a vigilant supervision, and establishing a system of rigid economy, reducing the large balances of cash which are allowed to remain in the hands of the treasurer, executing the necessary repairs and works by contract, within limited periods, and under the superintendence of an active and intelligent engineer, a very considerable reduction of the rates on all vessels under 300 tons passing Dover harbour, laden, and now chargeable with 3d. per ton, may be effected.

Your committee have found it necessary to express their opinion strongly, as to the necessity of a vigilant attention in the administration of the funds, as it is to be collected from the evidence of the registrar, that the periodical meetings of the Board have for some years past been unattended to, and that no regular audit of the accounts beyond the mere examination of the vouchers, with the amounts of payment, has taken place.

Your committee find, by reference to the annual accounts, that the permanent revenues of the harbour are about L. 1700 per annum, being about L. 200 more than the interest payable upon the monies borrowed, and yet to be received, L.7000 being put to the credit of the trust, exclusive of the ba lance of cash. The annual average receipts of rates, as now established, yield about L. 11,300; but from the imperfect mode in which the accounts are kept, no correct return can be obtained of the tonnage of the vessels which have, during the last few years, sought shelter in Dover harbour; nor has the harbour-master or registrar, who have been examined to those points, been able to give the committee any information on the subject. From a return, however, made by the collector of the customs at the port, it appears that the amount of the contributions annually made from vessels that enter and sail

from the harbour is about L.1150,
bearing a very small proportion of the
sums levied. The rates upon such ves-
sels as may enter the harbour, your
committee do not propose should be
altered; but they are decidedly of opi-
nion, that the rates upon vessels merely
passing should be forthwith reduced to
one penny per ton, that is, on all vessels
laden, bound over sea, being under 300
tons; and on all coasters laden with
coal or culm, one halfpenny per chal-
dron; and the like sum on every ton of
Purbeck, Portland, or grindstone, the
latter being above 20 tons, and under
300 tons; this diminution in the rates
being two-thirds of the present charge,
will reduce the amount of collection
from vessels passing to..........L.3713
Add thereto, annual collection
from vessels entering the
harbour,.......

Estimated total annual average receipt from rates,....................... Add thereto, permanent revenues,...

...1150

..1700

L.6563

Total annual revenue,...................
which will furnish very ample means
for providing the interest upon the mo-
nies already borrowed, and the further
sum which it may be necessary to raise
to complete further works (of the ex-
pediency of which your committee en-
tertain the greatest doubt), and keep the
harbour in a state of repair; and also
to form an accumulating fund for pay-
ing off those sums of money which have
been, or may be borrowed, as loans
only, allowing at the same time a suf-
ficient sum for the establishment and
contingencies.

that for the general accommodation of the trade, they consent that the collection of the Dover harbour dues payable in London should be received by the Trinity Corporation, at their office on Tower-hill, and 23 per cent. commission be allowed for the collection.

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Among the heads intended for inquiry, were the tonnage duty and the consulage. From the first, your committee has been relieved by the repeal which has taken place in the course of the present session; and they have reason to believe, that the second has been long under the consideration of the Government, and a bill for the regulation of it likely to be submitted to Parliament. But there are still, however, several subjects connected with the burdens upon trade, and others of considerable importance to the commerce of the country, under the consideration

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your committee; amongst which are the laws relating to quarantine, the .4863 rates collected under them, the London port duty, and the regulations and rates of pilotage, the inquiry into which your committee had hoped to have been able to complete in the course of the present session. This has been prevented by a reference to them of the application of the West India Dock Company for a renewal of their charter, together with the numerous petitions which have been presented against it from various quarters. The approaching expiration of the charter, to the expediency of continuing which their attention was thus called, has compelled them to suspend their examination into the subjects referred to, and to proceed without delay upon this part of their inquiry. Although considerable progress has been made in it, they cannot venture to entertain the hope of bringing it to a conclusion in time to enable them to resume the consideration of those subjects before the probable rising of Parliament; it must therefore remain postponed, to be renewed in a future ses

The board of assistants having under the act the power of reducing the harbour rates, it therefore will depend upon them, in the first instance, that the recommendations of your committee, in respect to the relief of the shipping, should be carried into effect; as also,

sion of Parliament, if it shall be the pleasure of the House to revive the committee.

SECOND REPORT ON THE PUBLIC

REVENUE.

To the Lords Commissioners of his Majesty's Treasury, the Second Report of the Commissioners appointed by the Acts of the 1st and 2d George IV. c. 90. and 3d George IV. c. 37., for inquiring into the collection and management of the public revenue arising in Ireland, and into certain departments of the public revenue arising in Great Britain.

In a preliminary report we stated to your Lordships, that our earliest attention had been directed to the subject pointed out in the act by which we are constituted, as the primary object of our appointment, "The assimilation of the mode of charging, managing, and collecting the revenue arising in Ireland, to the mode which is practised in Great Britain."

We at the same time informed your Lordships, that we had been engaged in the prosecution of an inquiry concerning the duties and regulations which affect the commercial intercourse between the two countries, and which afford occupation to so large a portion of the establishment of the customs in Ireland, that any new arrangement of that department must greatly depend upon the footing on which those duties and regulations may hereafter be established. In pursuing this inquiry, we kept in view that part of our instructions, in which the "modification of duties is specifically mentioned as one of the modes in which the assimilation of the revenues, or any improvement in the collection of them, may be effected, and upon which we are therefore to offer our observations and suggestions,

through your Lordships, to his Majesty and to Parliament.

Our proceedings for ascertaining in what manner and by what changes the first-mentioned and principal object to which we have adverted might best be attained, have led on to a full conviction that no new regulations could have the effect of creating a complete and permanent uniformity in the collection of the revenues of Great Britain and Ireland, unless enforced, in their practical execution, by one undivided authority. It has therefore appeared to us, that the intention of Parliament in this respect could not be otherwise fulfilled, than by a very material alteration in the constitution of the boards under which the several branches of the revenue are at present administered.

With respect to the intercourse between Great Britain and Ireland, we have been equally convinced that changes scarcely less extensive and important are in the highest degree desirable, and that a general simplification of the existing regulations, as well as a repeal of many of the duties, are required, not more by a due regard to the economy of the public service, than by a just consideration of the commercial and manufacturing interests of the two countries.

We have now, therefore, to propose those general measures which appear to us to be the best calculated for ef fecting those important purposes. It is almost unnecessary to observe, that all other improvements in the revenue in Ireland, and all reductions in the component parts of the establishments maintained for securing it, must depend greatly upon the degree in which these suggestions, which embrace so large a change in the constitution of the whole, may be adopted.

They will be comprised under the following heads:

I. The incorporation of the British and Irish establishments for the collec

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